Monday, 10 December 2007

BNP sack Smith and Graham

The BNP website has today announced that Head of Administration Kenny Smith and Head of Group Development have been sacked as officials of the BNP.


“This morning, Kenny Smith, Head of Administration and Sadie Graham, Group Development Officer, were expelled from the BNP for, amongst other things, creating and setting up a treasonous blogspot designed to attack and smear fellow party officials.


Below is a transcript of conversation between Sadie Graham, Matt Single and Kenny Smith discussing how they set up the “Enough is Enough” blogspot. Note the references to them using material from the Communist Searchlight organisation and other extreme left wing web sites and sources in their plans to destabilise the party.”


Visit link here http://www.bnp.org.uk/?p=66

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

So they used Commie sources! Big deal it doesn't mean the stuff isn't true. The transcript also shows they don't want to use stuff that isn't in the public domain.

Anonymous said...

You people are heros, not villains. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out the ones who should have been sacked. This will hit them hard in their pocket book - I certainly won't be a member next year. That young thug is destroying nationalism.

Anonymous said...

Sadie Graham is probably the hardest working person in the party and Kenny Smith is not far behind. Griffin thinks he can replace these guys with ease. He's sadly mistaken. He should have sacked Hannam and Collett instead. Anybody could do Hannam's job with ease and there are plenty talented designers on board now who could replace Collett.

Anonymous said...

If this is your site Kenny and Sadie. We support you. We now know you have tried to fix things internally for the last 2-3 years and tried to keep knowledge of the problems at a senior level. Griffin refuses to deal with the problem of Collett, Hannam and Walker. He has now shown that he would rather sack his two best performers instead of do the right thing by the party and by our race and nation. The BNP is finished if Griffin backs these three incompetent liars over you two.

stgeorge said...

What has happened to the 120 post that were on this blog yesterday???

Libertas said...

I dug them out from my offline files and posted what I had - they are under the Party of Principle thread. I would put there up here, but that's for the owners to decide.

EnoughIsEnough said...

Sorry see the post 'Blog attacked by BNP new boy". Griffin's Stasi hijacked the site temporarily. We are indebted to a supporter for rescuing this much.

EnoughIsEnough said...

stgeorge said...
This is all to do with Mark Collett who should have had his marching orders years ago. If Nick Griffin had acted then, this situation would never have occurred. More people loyal to the Nationalist cause bite the dust. And as for suggesting that this arrogant little squirt could be a successor to the leadership of the B.N.P. beggers belief, Nick your a bloody idiot.

09 December 2007 18:21


james e wood said...
just because nick ended up in bed with collett he cant say anything about him ,all the security know what happened .but cant/wont say anything

09 December 2007 18:22


Scottish Official said...
All Scottish Officials are resigning from thier official roles this evening in support of Kenny, Sadie, Matt and Nicholla who have all been sacked from the party. I'm sure many other officials throughout the party will follow suit. Nick Griffin has gone too far this time to protect Collett, Hannam and Walker.

09 December 2007 18:25


ex member said...
It's a shame that these top officials have been sacked, Smith and Graham were two of the hardest working people in the party. Griffin should reinstate them immeadiately and get rid of Collett, Hannam and Walker no matter what they are holding against him.

09 December 2007 18:32


Anonymous said...
"james e wood said...
just because nick ended up in bed with collett he cant say anything about him ,all the security know what happened .but cant/wont say anything

09 December 2007 18:22"

Why not, everyone knows Griffin likes young boys

09 December 2007 18:35


Anonymous said...
ex member said...
It's a shame that these top officials have been sacked, Smith and Graham were two of the hardest working people in the party. Griffin should reinstate them immeadiately and get rid of Collett, Hannam and Walker no matter what they are holding against him.

09 December 2007 18:32


Griffin needs to get rid of himself first

09 December 2007 18:36


purge the shite said...
Down, down, Griffin really is set on destroying the BNP from within.

It's time Griffin went! along with his muppets

09 December 2007 18:40


Anonymous said...
I cant believe that Griffin has stooped so low as to 'bug' Sadies home.

I am disgusted at his behaviour. What gives him the right to do this? How can anyone trust him now?

You guys have my full support.

09 December 2007 18:41


Anonymous said...
For anyone with half a brain the transcript actually shows that they were NOT working with Searchlight - or else why would they have been discussing how to obtain back copies?????????

09 December 2007 18:45


Bradford Matt said...
I've just had a phone call from Nick Cass who is to review his standing and indeed membership of the party. Watch this space....

09 December 2007 18:47


A. said...
Ask the security department how they managed to gain entry into her house while she was away.
Security should also be asked about the theft of Sadie's personal property as well as taking away party property.
Who bugged Sadie's house?

09 December 2007 18:48


Anonymous said...
Collett is a down right nasty arse licker who deserves to be kicked out of the party.

A jumped up twat that needs taking down a peg or two

09 December 2007 18:49


Albion1983 said...
Can you give your side of this part Kenny:"in the case of Mr. Smith, of serious breaches of accountancy procedures leaving up to £17,000 unaccounted for in the 2006 Central Audit, and of a wilful neglect of the Excalibur merchandising operation constituting attempted financial sabotage in order to create an artificial ‘crisis’ to which their proposals would be presented as the solution."

Also, do you know how that audio was obtained? Bugging of Sadie's house has been alleged.

09 December 2007 18:52


Anonymous said...
Nick Cass always struck me as a decent nationalist, so it's quite likely he would want to dissociate himself from the leadership's latest disgrace.

It's time for the decent people in nationalism to get together to build a post-Griffin movement. We can't afford to see good activists lost to the cause, just tearing up their membership cards in despair and giving up on politics.

09 December 2007 18:55


Jane Griffiths said...
The is the first time I've come across this blog and nobody else seems to know about it either so why was it publicised on the national site???

I don't know the facts but what I do know is that I do not wish to belong to a party whose leadership cannot take criticism from rank and file members.

I spent 6 years as a paid-up Conservative during the Major/Hague/IDS years and I'll tell you now that if everyone who had criticised the leadership had been expelled there would have been nobody left.

Mr Griffin, consider my membership null and void and remove me from your 'begging letter' list.

09 December 2007 19:07


Anonymous said...
As a starting point, has anyone considered the wage checks that won't be arriving?

A little birdie tells me that Kenny will get a small early christmas gift..hell all I could scrape up was a fiver...but it would be a nice gesture if all dissenters sent along a little something to Kenny - I am sure he would keep a watchful eye out for Sadie and any other victims needing a few pennies to get by on.

09 December 2007 19:15


Anonymous said...
Nick Giffin has handled this situation with all the grace of a thunderstorm. It was not a coup and they were not in league with searchlight and the U.A.F, that's pretty clear. If anything they were working in the interests of the B.N.P. and its members. This is oh so sad, one step forward and two back. Open you ears Nick your paranoia is mis-directed

09 December 2007 19:18


will donate said...
Anonymous said...

As a starting point, has anyone considered the wage checks that won't be arriving?

A little birdie tells me that Kenny will get a small early christmas gift..hell all I could scrape up was a fiver...but it would be a nice gesture if all dissenters sent along a little something to Kenny - I am sure he would keep a watchful eye out for Sadie and any other victims needing a few pennies to get by on.

I'm sure that the fiver would come in handy seeing as both Kenny and his wife have been sacked and are expecting a baby in a few weeks. Sadie and Matt are also expecting a baby and have no income now either. Mr Griffin sure has given these two couples a wonderful Christmas gift.
Where can I send some money to?

09 December 2007 19:25


Anonymous said...
Martin and Linzi Reynolds a three other males gained entry to Sadie and Matt's home by deception and stole items and equipment that belonged to Sadie, while they were away from home.
At the same time Clive Jefferson and two other males appeared at Kenny and Nicholla's door with letters of expulsion and demanding items in the house. They were refused entry.
Both Nicholla and Sadie are pregnant and instead of doing things by the book Griffin attempted to use strong arm tactics to get his way.
Well his goons fucked up by stealing property that wasn't theirs and gaining entry to the house illegally. What a bunch of cowards for doing it when they knew Matt (no.2 in security and a guy more than capable of defending himself) was away.
And if he thinks he can intimidate Kenny Smith he a fool. Despite appearances Kenny is tough Scottish bastard. Kenny got threatened with a kneecapping by gangsters while defending Nicholla in her tribunal against a security firm she was sack from for being a BNP official and told them to fuck off.
All these four (Sadie, Matt, Kenny and Nicholla) have made sacrifices for the cause. Collett, Hannam and Walker have done fuck all, but shame the BNP.

09 December 2007 19:39


Mark Wain said...
Right behind you! If all else fails, what else can you do? Griffin is destroying this party. I will not be renewing my membership because of this and a LOT of other reasons. Chin up guys and gals............

09 December 2007 19:40


Anonymous said...
Where can I send some money to?

Yes me too. I'm willing to send these four a Christmas present too. Where can I send it to?

09 December 2007 19:42


Anonymous said...
Just a little food for thought: If Sadie Graham can be bugged how does the rest of the party officials feel? Unnerving isn't it. Do not trust anyone is my advice. what a crying shame.

09 December 2007 19:48


london member said...
Not very nationalist sacking two pregnant women from the party just before Christmas.
I won't be renewing my membership unless they are reinstated and the Collett clique expelled instead.

09 December 2007 19:57


Anonymous said...
Right behind you all, remember when there was a mass walk out of good people at the demo trial! well i was one of those people and im so glad I did it cos being in the BNP when griffin sticks up for collette no matter what he does makes me wanna vommit.

09 December 2007 19:58


Anonymous said...
Matt, Sadie, I was just about to renew my subscription for 'Identity' and 'Vouce of Freedom' and I've changed my mind. Open up a P.O. box and it's yours.

09 December 2007 19:59


soon to be ex-Lincoln BNP said...
The BNP has made a huge, huge mistake. I cannot believe that they actually think the appalling stitch-up of Sadie and Kenny is something to crow about on our website, complete with its 'south african security specialist'. What planet is Nick living on? Does he realise how badly this reflects on the party? We are trying to make ourselves electable and he's playing 'night of the long knives' with two of our most honest, popular and electable officials?! Anyone who knows either of these people would know that they would only have gone to the lengths of making this blog because they had no choice. Mark is widely reviled in the party, and to use one of his own clever phrases, 'there's no smoke without fire'. The BNP is important to me, and I am loathed to leave it, but if Nick does not reinstate Sadie and Kenny, and get rid of these embarrassing, damaging twits, I'm quitting, and I suspect many feel the same way.

09 December 2007 20:00


Ram said...
Sorry to hear about this turmoil. I would like to express my hope that Sadie and Nicholla are OK and I hope I will see them active in the future. In the new and untainted party.

09 December 2007 20:04


Scottish Official said...
Every official who knows the truth should resign as officials this week. Kenny and Sadie should be given our full support. Many have been moaning privately about what these two have been arguing with Griffin about for years. It's time to put up or shut up people. Griffin is driving the BNP onto the rocks with his support for Collett, Hannam and Walker. Many have had their complaints taken up by Kenny and Sadie and Ian Dawson before that because they are honest and true patriots trying to save the BNP. I know Scottish officials are resigning en mass and others are doing likewise across England. Councillors should also resign the party whip and become independent councillors. Don't resign your memberships, but if you support Kenny and Sadie and believe the problem is Griffin's backing of the three incompetent liars then you need to act now. Don't let these two good people go the same way that Ian Dawson, Scott MacLean, Jonathan Bowden, Nick Cass, Warren Bennett, Mark Payne, Chris Beverley, Wendy Russell, Doc Edwards and other less well known people have gone. The time has come for us to fight for the BNP.
Kenny and Sadie have fought to save the party for the membership and have spoken out at the highest levels when other cowards buried their heads in the sand. Let's now speak out and support them. Resign your post in letters to Griffin and Walker and send Kenny and Sadie copies two so they know who you are.

09 December 2007 20:08


Anonymous said...
Enough really IS ENOUGH!

Do the BNP now tap members' fones? Do they new feel free to burglarise the homes; invade the privacies of other Members?

And, the BNP is making a HUGE mistake with it's open diversity policies - especially when it comes to The Semites - on both sides of the fence, Arab as well as Jew. As well as the concessions proffered the immigrant population.

Once again, Britain has a party that is being lead around by it's nose by non-native Britons.

Kenny and Sadie, you have every right to disagree and to create this site. To defend Nationalism and the truth.

Nationalism in Britain has been effectively defanged and is now but a toothless tiger.

09 December 2007 20:12


Anonymous said...
Griffin has been tasked with destroying the BNP by his paymasters, and he seems to be doing a sterling job of it so far.

Griffin is not incompetent...Far from it, merely doing the job that he has been paid to do by the State.

09 December 2007 20:15


Anonymous said...
The various public forums suggest Griffin has badly misjudged this one, even some of the BNP bloggers have turned on him:

http://scottishbritishandproud.blogspot.com/

I wonder what the others will have to say? Interesting that Darby has yet to comment. Is this your moment Simon? That is of course if there is anything left to take over.

It's difficult to see how Griffin could fix this if only a fraction of the claims made are half accurate. Unless he finds a way I won't be renewing my membership.

Spencer (East Birmingham)

09 December 2007 20:26


Anonymous said...
Hang in there the two of you. For you just might well be the Leaders of a new "BNP". One that does not produce such tripe as this:

/This page tells the truth about the BNP./

http://www.bnp.org.uk/?p=66

I see no difference in the verbiage proffered by this "truth"
as being any different from the more tradtional and established parties that continue to betray
the native born and Britain's
indgenious People are left as abandoned and conned as ever by BNP policies and rummy governmental rhetoric as ever.

Shame too, the BNP once had promise. Now it's a defanged tiger gnawing at it's own tail.

09 December 2007 20:29


Anonymous said...
Matt, Sadie's partner, has put his life on hold for the BNP for several years now and indeed been prepared to put his life at risk to protect Nick Griffin and Sadie is so dedicated and hard working I just cannot believe Nick would do this to them. Surely he should have given them the chance to talk face to face with him - what a cowardly, indecent act on his part. Shame on him. I am so disappointed for them. The BNP have been their life, that's how they met. They are courageous and truly dedicated to the Nationalist cause which is why I know they would only ever have the interests of the party in mind.

09 December 2007 20:41


Baz said...
The BNP is not the "Leadership"- it is the membership. If the membership leaves en masse, we can have a party that is run how the membership wants. Contrary to BNP propoganda, there are plenty of other decent nationalist parties - Or perhaps Sadie would start a new one ! - I would join - I feel that this lady has far more credibility than Griffin and Co

Perhaps this is the kick up the arse we needed!

09 December 2007 20:53


Denis Andruchow said...
Their December pay cheques will be suspended pending further inquiry I guess. If I were either of the two I would not be calling upon Griffin's hired hands in the cash cow known as 'Solidarity' to fight my corner.

I don't care much for shysters who rob young children and pregnant mothers of Christmas gifts. The acid test for Griffin's commitment to family values will be how he reacts. And, yes, Simon - this is your moment old chap. Show us that you've got some balls.

09 December 2007 20:56


Anonymous said...
Take a look at Simon Darbys blog.

He feels sorry for Nick and wants to thank Mark & Dave!!!!! LOL

09 December 2007 20:59


Anonymous. For fear of expulsion said...
Nick Cass was a first rate organiser and I'd like to record my thanks to him for getting me out of the s*** at RWB on two occassions.

RWB this year was awful. Lot of faces missing and not the same.

My appeal to you, Nick, if what has been said on this forum tonight is true, would be not to desert the party and stay and fight 'our' corner - you know what I mean.

It's not on what.

09 December 2007 21:18


Anonymous said...
Posters - don't leave the BNP - wait to see if their is a leadership election first. It would be much easier to reform the party then start another - but if we must start another, then so be it.

09 December 2007 21:24


EnoughIsEnough said...
Letters of Resignation

Those wanting to support Sadie and Kenny by resigning their official positions within the BNP and or dumping the party whip by becoming independent councillors instead of BNP councillors - please don't resign your membership or councillorships - should send their letters of resigination to:

Nick Griffin at chairman@bnp.org.uk Party Manager Tony Brewer at manager@bnp.org.uk

please CC:
Sadie at sadie.graham@ntlworld.com
Kenny at treasurer@civilliberty.org.uk

09 December 2007 21:31


Tyndallite said...
I take no pleasure in saying it, but you people spent years propping up Griffin and his lying edifice, and he's done what he always has done - eaten his own children.

JT is vindicated 110%

09 December 2007 21:38


Ex - Falkirk Organiser said...
I have just written and posted my letter of resignation as Falkirk Organiser to Nick Griffin.
Our Falkirk fundholder has also resigned.

09 December 2007 21:39


Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

Posters - don't leave the BNP - wait to see if their is a leadership election first. It would be much easier to reform the party then start another - but if we must start another, then so be it.

09 December 2007 21:24

Please do not resign from the party but do resign from your official roles, it's time we stood up to the vermin that are destroying the party from within.

09 December 2007 21:41


Nick listen to the members said...
Sadie we love you but this was plain stupid as im sure you are well aware now!

still i do lay much of the blame at Nicks door, Mark is a liability and should be demoted to a local group leader, not a top dog, especially after his TV Nazi gaffs.

however Sadie you left Nick with no choice, perhaps honesty and a ultimatum would have been a better idea, at least it wouldhave been honest.

no one is bigger than the party and that includes you two - but also Nick if you are reading this, it also includes Mark Collett.

09 December 2007 21:46


EnoughIsEnough said...
Neither Kenny nor Sadie want to accept donations for personal use. Those wanting to send donations to help them fight the good fight can do so by sending cheques or postal orders made payable for the moment to 'Sadie Graham' and posted to PO Box 8706, Nottingham, NG16 9AP.
Every single donor will get a receipt, so please include a return address. They will also keep donors informed about donation levels.

09 December 2007 21:49


Anonymous said...
Shite, that is terrible news.
How is the Clachnacuddin BNP holding up? Have they also thrown the towel in?
The Whole Scotch region is just a laughably irrelevent sideshow anyway. Apart from the rabid Proddies (and who wants them?) everyone up there hates anything British.

Lets take this as an ideal opportunity to unload the entire Scottish BNP into a Scotland First type organisation. They would get racist councillors north of the border a damn sight sooner and would be a burdon off the backs of the English.

Ex - Falkirk Organiser said...
I have just written and posted my letter of resignation as Falkirk Organiser to Nick Griffin.
Our Falkirk fundholder has also resigned.

09 December 2007 21:49


Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

Posters - don't leave the BNP - wait to see if their is a leadership election first. It would be much easier to reform the party then start another - but if we must start another, then so be it.

Griffin has rigged the constitution so there cannot be a leadership election until after June 30th. Not very democratic that eh?

09 December 2007 21:50


Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

Shite, that is terrible news.
How is the Clachnacuddin BNP holding up? Have they also thrown the towel in?
The Whole Scotch region is just a laughably irrelevent sideshow anyway. Apart from the rabid Proddies (and who wants them?) everyone up there hates anything British.

Lets take this as an ideal opportunity to unload the entire Scottish BNP into a Scotland First type organisation. They would get racist councillors north of the border a damn sight sooner and would be a burdon off the backs of the English.

Ex - Falkirk Organiser said...
I have just written and posted my letter of resignation as Falkirk Organiser to Nick Griffin.
Our Falkirk fundholder has also resigned.

OK Dave Hannam and John Walker which one of you two idiots posted this?

09 December 2007 22:06


South East Official said...
Nick listen to the members said...

Sadie we love you but this was plain stupid as im sure you are well aware now!

still i do lay much of the blame at Nicks door, Mark is a liability and should be demoted to a local group leader, not a top dog, especially after his TV Nazi gaffs.

however Sadie you left Nick with no choice, perhaps honesty and a ultimatum would have been a better idea, at least it wouldhave been honest.

no one is bigger than the party and that includes you two - but also Nick if you are reading this, it also includes Mark Collett.

Maybe Sadie had already been honest with Nick. Perhaps she had already been told they were a protected species and she could bugger off if she didn't like it. Griffin has been trying to get rid of her and Kenny for months. Collett, Hannam and Walker for even longer.

Collett has never been a group organiser or a community campaigner. Both Sadie and Kenny have been local and regional organisers and are still active in their local communities.

BNP officials who have had dealings with any of these people will quickly tell you Sadie and Kenny were the ones who did the work and got results. No lies, no bullshit, no trying to hinder other people's efforts, just 1st class BNP activists putting party before self.

09 December 2007 22:12


Dewsbury Loyalist said...
I hate to say that I told you so... but, I told you so.

Why do you think I left Griffins National Party after one of his thugs tried to assault my best mates wife.

As for the skills of a certain Mr Cass - I doubt if they will be highly sought elsewhere.

09 December 2007 22:12


st george said...
Just tried to post on Simon Darbys blog without success, I wonder why????? can anybody tell me???????

09 December 2007 22:15


Anonymous said...
The main BNP website calls Sadie and Kenny junior officials... what a joke.
Sadie successfully ran Group Development which was the building blocks for party growth and organisation.
Kenny successfully ran administration which controlled party function and membership and form 3 lists.
Hardly junior roles are they? They were the most hands on officials in the party. Worked long hours for poor pay but didn't complain.
Screwed over by money hungry Griffin and his cabal of thieving lying rats Worm, W##K and Squirt or Collett, Walker and Hannam as they are also know.

09 December 2007 22:21


Aberdeen Patriot said...
Hi I Am Posting this on behalf of the Aberdeen Organiser who is resigning his position In the Party unless all of the people sacked are reinstated, and the members given a vote to decide if Hannam, Collet and Walker go.

09 December 2007 22:25


truthsayer said...
To my knowledge the following people have either left or been expelled from the B.N.P over approximatley the last eighteen months.
1) Sharon Ebanks. I believe her dispute with Mr Griffin was over money.
2)Simone Smith, West Midlands BNP councillor, who rumour has it,resigned from the BNP because he believed Mr Griffin to be financially corrupt
3)Ian Dawson , deputy Group Developement officer, removed , we understand, because he questioned the treasury departments handling of the party's money.
4) Kenny Smith, Head of BNP administration, expelled from the BNP. Roumour has it that Kenney was unhappy with the way treasury functioned.

Makes you think does it not?
Here is something else to think about.
a)Jonathan Bowden left the BNP because, it is understood by many members, that BNP security members set up an 'anti Jonathan Bowden' website and Nick Griffin refused to discipline BNP security or demand that the anti Jonathon Bowden website be taken down. If this is true we must ask ourselves why is Nick Griffin apparently so subservient to BNP security. Or was Jonathan Bowden asking questions that Mr Griffin did not wish to answer. Were these questions possibly about the party's financies? We do not know but we would like to know. <
b) Why was Doc Edwards dismissed as BNP press officer? Again roumour has it that that he did not resign but was pushed out.The members would like to know the truth and if he was pushed out --why?

c)Sadie Graham ,BNP Group Developement officier, E.M Regional organiser and BNP councilour has been expelled. Why? Mr Griffin will,we assume, claim that she hosted a 'treasonous' blogspot. Did she? And if so do you think that this blogspot is treasonous? Do you think that it is treasonous to question the party chairman and/or his treasury department?
d)The BNP website has posted what it claims is a transcript of a conversation between Sadie graham, Mat Single and K. Smith. First question : how do we know this is a true transcript? Second question: if it is a true transcript how did BNP security obtain the transcript?. That is are BNP security,and if so one must assume on the orders of Nick Griffin, illeaglely bugging members homes and phones. If so it is, I believe, time we went to court against Mr Grifin and Co.


So who is next for the chop in our democratic BNP? Oh yes the expulsons of Mr Smith and Ms Graham appeared to be so rapid that I wonder if they had the oppurtunity to face a disciplinary hearing
Perhaps Mr Smith and Ms Graham should consider bringing a case for unlawful dismissal. I feel that these matters need to be examined in detail in the courts.

09 December 2007 22:37


Anonymous said...
Don't forget Andrew Spence, another decent activist for the short time he managed to stay in the party before whacking Collett.

09 December 2007 22:40


Anti-gag said...
Collett must go, no ifs ands or buts!

I have always supported Nick Griffin, and still do. But that support is, as from today, no longer unconditional.

09 December 2007 22:40


Anonymous said...
How many of these Scottish branches laying down the law actually contest elections?

Would they be missed?

If they leave the BNP then where would they gravitate to?

I suggest they start a new party - Scotland First.

09 December 2007 22:45


glasgow member said...
Scotland was set to stand and pay for 9 candidates in the recently aborted General Election. More than in many other places.
We also raised £34k to fight the elections in May. More than many other regions.
Hannam and Walker might not miss BNP Scotland but would you have British National Party without BNP Scotland.
Silly boys!

09 December 2007 22:58


ex-Falkirk organiser said...
Anonymous said...

How many of these Scottish branches laying down the law actually contest elections?

Would they be missed?

If they leave the BNP then where would they gravitate to?

I suggest they start a new party - Scotland First.

09 December 2007 22:45

What a bloody good idea, at least then the BNP's treasury department couldn't demand that all monies raised in Scotland be sent down to England. At least in Scotland they know how to raise money £34,000.00 was raised to fight the Scottish elections.
BTW how are the Scottish branches laying down the law?

09 December 2007 23:00


Anonymous said...
Don't forget Andrew Spence, another decent activist for the short time he managed to stay in the party before whacking Collett.


And you know this decent guy do you?
I take it he is decent because he is no friend of Collett.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend or so they say.

The guy is a first rate prick who has been in every organisation going in the North East, fallen out with most of them and missed by none.

He is an egotistical big baby who resigned almost every day during the Sedgefield election.
He probably loved what it did to his ego being begged to come back after resigning, but after the first couple of times the members got sick of his behaviour, had him weighed up and couldn't wait to see the back of him.

If you think that Andrew Spence is decent then your welcome to him Andy.

09 December 2007 23:02


N Brown said...
I have also resigned as Organiser, there is nothing now to organise. I will also resign as BNP councillor, I do not wish to be associated with an organisation that uses the tactic it has today. I am disgusted and to think I was so fired up after the conference. The BNP as we once knew it no longer exists.

09 December 2007 23:03


Anonymous said...
Who is this anti-Jock moron? If not fielding BNP candidates en mass means that that area is dispensable then three quarters of England are also "not worth bothering about". It is, or rather was, the BRITISH Nationalist Party.

In any event it looks unlikely that the rebellion is to be confined to Scotland. If the posts on this and other sites are genuine then officials in Lancaster and Lincoln at least have also joined, thats pretty bad news in the space of 24 hours.

Frustration with the leadership has been building for years. Its only the need for unity which has held it back. Hense the low turn out for Griffin at the leadership election even against a candidate backed by Sharon Ebanks. However Griffin has overstepped the mark this time, and to defend the most hated man in the BNP against one of the most prominant and popular actavists. Griffin has in effect committed a spectacularly messy political sucide. For the love of Mark Collett, the idiot who nearly landed him in prision for seven years. No greater love hath a man than this.....

09 December 2007 23:08


Anonymous said...
glasgow member said...
Scotland was set to stand and pay for 9 candidates in the recently aborted General Election. More than in many other places.
We also raised £34k to fight the elections in May. More than many other regions.
Hannam and Walker might not miss BNP Scotland but would you have British National Party without BNP Scotland.
Silly boys!


Money down the drain.
Scotland BNP always trails in way behind the other BNP "regions" with very embarrasing percentages.
Still you won't have to worry about that anymore.

The best idea would be to start a Scotland First party. Abandon all links with Unionism or Britishness.
Saved deposits, respectable results and councillors will soon follow.

You will never achieve that as a British Party in Scotland.

09 December 2007 23:11


The Godfather said...
This has been a long time coming. This party is nothing without its members. Any member who has met Mark Collett will tell you the same thing 'he's a jumped up little twat'!

The BNP's manefesto states that voting members will dictate the future of the Party, not the jumped up fairies that can be found on the AC.

I admire the courage shown by both Sadie and Ken, although internally misconduct will be ruled, their interests were in the greater good of the Party.

I have not been active since RWB where the incident between afore mentioned 'fairies' took place.

09 December 2007 23:13


Anonymous said...
Have you read Simon Darbys Blog, only five comments, all the rest filtered out, I suppose he will have to write some possitive posts himself

09 December 2007 23:23


Anonymous said...
I admire the courage shown by both Sadie and Ken, although internally misconduct will be ruled, their interests were in the greater good of the Party.

Was it really courage?
Many would say that they were just underhand,untrustworthy schemers who were caught red handed plotting.
Their behaviour is reprehensible and any decent activist would be appalled by their antics.

Imagine if everyone in the BNP behaved as sneaky as this pair.

09 December 2007 23:29


Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

I admire the courage shown by both Sadie and Ken, although internally misconduct will be ruled, their interests were in the greater good of the Party.

Was it really courage?
Many would say that they were just underhand,untrustworthy schemers who were caught red handed plotting.
Their behaviour is reprehensible and any decent activist would be appalled by their antics.

Imagine if everyone in the BNP behaved as sneaky as this pair.

Do you not mean imagine if the leadership had not acted in such a sneaky manner? We all know who is to blame for Graham and Smith being forced to use this site as a last resort!

09 December 2007 23:34


Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

I admire the courage shown by both Sadie and Ken, although internally misconduct will be ruled, their interests were in the greater good of the Party.

Was it really courage?
Many would say that they were just underhand,untrustworthy schemers who were caught red handed plotting.
Their behaviour is reprehensible and any decent activist would be appalled by their antics.

Imagine if everyone in the BNP behaved as sneaky as this pair.


What would you do if told your work was exemplary, you'd never embarrassed the party and never caused problems for other officials, but you still had to stop presenting evidence to the boss about the incompetence and lies of 3 other officials? And to top it all, that these 3 scumbags are a protected species and if you don't like it you can piss off?

Yes I think I might start a blog as well?

09 December 2007 23:36


Anonymous said...
anonymous said

Imagine if everyone in the BNP behaved as sneaky as this pair.

09 December 2007 23:29


If Nick Griffin had acted as he should have done it would never have happened in the first place. But taking your point does everyone include Mark numb nuts Collett & Co or just people acting in the B.N.P. and members interest

09 December 2007 23:43


Anonymous said...
Was it really courage?
"Many would say that they were just underhand,untrustworthy schemers who were caught red handed plotting.

Their behaviour is reprehensible and any decent activist would be appalled by their antics.

Imagine if everyone in the BNP behaved as sneaky as this pair."

So how was the recording made? If listening in on phone calls isn't sneaky what is? Who the hell does Griffin think he is? Richard Nixon?

If setting up a blog is "treason" then what is suppling it with pages of damaging material? "aiding and abetting the enemy"? Which is what Hannam and Collett have done.

This blog was mild and used only information which is already in the public domain. If it had been intended to be damaging to the Party I dare say a lot more could have been added.

09 December 2007 23:45


at the end of my patience said...
1) Over the last 12 months I can think of one or two other telephones which should have been bugged....suspect REDS not hard working activists....yet no-one did it. And the management of the party were told.

2) I note that the C.U.N.T.S web-site is down...hmmmm

09 December 2007 23:51


MikeinEngland said...
LONG TIME NATIONALISTS who have seen this type of thing before will have mixed emotions tonight. When we fought to keep the BNP barely alive in the 1980s we believed we were fighting for a pro-white resistance but now we have an insipid, pro-Zionist semi-nationalist alternative. Although critical of Tyndall, and knowing him well, he did lead from the front but failed to move things forward but I fear we have thrown out the baby and the bathwater today.

Many of us never trusted Griffin but were prepared to offer some level of tacit and critical support as long as an element of decency prevailed. We didn't believe the Edwards in the 1990s but we do believe Sadie Graham and Matt Single today. There is just too much evidence for BNP corruption around the Griffin triumvirate and hangers-on.

We can see what is being done to the movement today. Attacks on papersellers combined with pressure on local meetings followed by targetted internal dispute after internal dispute. It is pretty obvious that the ruling cadre of the BNP, especially those dodgy South African "former" intelligence officers whose passage to these Isles were tainted with rumour and misdoing, is at some level a State-run black op. Griffin doesn't care anyway but people feel they have to keep him in a leadership role because he's "done so well" and "won in court" but his party has become a State pressure valve, a non-revolutionary, pro-Zionist compromise with no real ideology and certainly no morals if today is anything to go by.

To say that has been "badly handled" is an understatement and misses the point; the only explanation for the timing, the MO used and the effect it has suggests a fairly blatant State-sponsored operation in which useful idiots with some mistaken idea of "loyalty to leader" have been used and, of course, abused.

I'm not sure how much evidence one needs but many years ago I had Collett down as the next State operative who would remain hidden beneath a tissue of lies, threats, violence and corruption as he had something on other senior BNP officials.

It is also the case the Sadie Graham was a real threat to Griffin and arguably the most marketable - and potentially most important - woman in Nationalism today....so they had to get rid of her and her close colleagues as her efforts, both locally and nationally, were seriously worrying the State.

You read it here first........

09 December 2007 23:58


Anonymous said...
"The guy is a first rate prick who has been in every organisation going in the North East, fallen out with most of them and missed by none.

He is an egotistical big baby who resigned almost every day during the Sedgefield election."

No, I don't know him, and I hadn't heard your take on him before. If that's true, then good riddance.

10 December 2007 00:02


Organiser (Midlands) said...
This is another Organiser who will be resigning, after notifying my members first.
It is with great sadness, but I cannot serve a party that puts up with Colletts antics.
Like many people I have hung onto every word of Nick Griffins, but no more. No doubt he will make a plea for unity, saying Sadie and Kenny forced his hand, but the reality is that through his own decision to hang on to Collett he has forced them to desperate measures.
If enough party officials resign and help form a new organisation a countrywide infrastructure could be in place very quickly.
BTW you can add Steve Blake and Chris Beverley to the list of expulsions.

10 December 2007 00:03


Anonymous said...
Do you not mean imagine if the leadership had not acted in such a sneaky manner? We all know who is to blame for Graham and Smith being forced to use this site as a last resort!


WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
Who do these two people think they are taking it upon themselves to be self styled spokespeople for how the BNP should be run?

I can't remember voting for them in a leadership election.
Very nice of them to take it upon themselves to take offence on behalf of the entire BNP membership.
They are too big for their boots. Like many who always keep appearing no matter what circles you move in.

If they have something to say or think they could do things better then they should go about it in the proper manner - put up for the leadership. What do they hope to achieve through being sneaky?

If they had stood and been elected to leader then I would have accepted that and given them 100% support.

The "Sneaky 2" have no right to set up traitorous blogs attacking the BNP.
If they do then they deserve to be shown the door.
No two people are bigger than the party.
I think that they are possibly Searchlight assets.

10 December 2007 00:06


Anonymous said...
2 weeks from now all this will have blown over and BNP members will have forgotten all about it. They always do and Griffin relies on that fact.

How long did you remember me before you all turned into jackals and believed their lies?

How easily did you forget Simon Smith a man who gave up his teaching career for the BNP?

How about Jonathan Bowden?
The Doc?
Andrew Spence?
Ian Christie?
Peter Rushton?
Sharon Edwards?
Steve Smith?
Steven Edwards?
Wendy Russell?
Angela Clark?
Joe Owen?
Warren Bennett?
John Tyndall?

Etc etc etc

This list is endless, you gave up on them all and belived the lies that Griffin, Collett and his other pigs fed to you. I was once one of those sheep who unquestionably believed Griffin and never gave a damn about some of those on that list but, at least I apologised to them.

When will you have the guts to really stand up and say what you believe using your REAL names? If you are afraid of the BNP, you should not be a member of it.

Kind regards

Sharon Ebanks

10 December 2007 00:09


Anonymous said...
I'm sure Ian Dawson will be expelled too as Yorkshire Regional Secretary! The best people this party has are being culled. This truly is a sad day for the BNP. I won't be renewing my membership unless the situation is resolved with all these good people back on board.

10 December 2007 00:09


Guessedworker said...
What a sad, sad situation. I am not a member of the BNP, nor would be likely to become so. But I have written a considerable quantity of blog postings in support of Griffin's effort to make the party electable, for the simple reason that it's the only game in town.

One hopes against hope that the twin diseases of nationalist politics - incompetent leadership and extremism - belong to the past. And yet, one or both reappear with boorish regularity.

When we are engaged here, literally, in pulling our people out of a course of extinction, it really is profoundly troubling.

But getting it right isn't impossible. Currently, the two parties in Europe for whom nationalism is working best are VB and SVP. In fact, VB's platform has been somewhat overtaken by events in Belgium. But no matter, the fundamental principle of respectability rules. Without respectability no emergent movement will gain electability.

I suppose no one in the party really needs or welcomes my advice. But if Sadie and Kenny are serious about establishing an alternative nationalist party, here are some golden rules, IMO:-

1. Perhaps be satisfied to see yourselves as enablers, not leaders. True leadership in politics, as in any other area of life, is a rare quality. Until someone with the appropriate attributes emerges you can always do a Green Party trick. It won't hurt for a year or even two.

2. Don't compete with your former colleagues. Look to complement their activity, to grow the nationalist pie. Among other things, that means not stealing the principle funders of the old party, but finding your own.

3. Encourage intellectualism at the top of the new party. This is the simplest way to eliminate further knuckle-dragging embarrassments.

4. Learn from nationalist experience elsewhere in Europe.

Good luck.

10 December 2007 00:10


stgeorge said...
Going by the sound quality it was not Sadies phone that was bugged but her computor. Can anyone say how this was done from outside using the web. But what a way to run a political party, bug an official and then hang your dirty linen out in public. You can hang Mark Collett out in public and nobody will complain, but not your dirty linen

10 December 2007 00:12


50cent is not music for nationalists said...
The "Sneaky 2" have no right to set up traitorous blogs attacking the BNP.
If they do then they deserve to be shown the door.
No two people are bigger than the party.
I think that they are possibly Searchlight assets.

Welcome to the blog Mark Collett!

10 December 2007 00:12


Anonymous said...
"He is an egotistical big baby who resigned almost every day during the Sedgefield election."

Isn't that because Collett only completed his election leaflets several days before the election? TELL THE TRUTH OR SHUT UP

Collett was responsible.

10 December 2007 00:14


Anonymous said...
The "Sneaky 2" have no right to set up traitorous blogs attacking the BNP.
If they do then they deserve to be shown the door.
No two people are bigger than the party.
I think that they are possibly Searchlight assets.

Read the transcript or listen to the text. Would searchlight assets have to wonder where they can get copies of Searchlies? Numb nut!

10 December 2007 00:16


Anonymous said...
Tyndall, and knowing him well, he did lead from the front

You can't have known Tyndall that well.
I have also been in the BNP for Years and not once did I see him rolling his sleeves up to get stuck in at the business end.
Quite the opposite, Tyndall considered himself too grand for that sort of thing.
He was aloof and left the street work to those below him.

On the other hand Nick was regularly to be seen in election campaigns - Knocking on doors canvassing from dawn to dusk, leafleting and even driving round in a converted refrigerator wagon converted to a speaker van, sprayed up in BNP colours and playing patriotic music.

No coincidence that the BNP skyrocketed in a short space of time from Tyndall getting voted out & replaced by Nick. But of course the "Sneaky Two" weren't around in them years to witness the ruins that Griffin took over and turned into something more successful.

10 December 2007 00:17


Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Do you not mean imagine if the leadership had not acted in such a sneaky manner? We all know who is to blame for Graham and Smith being forced to use this site as a last resort!


WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
Who do these two people think they are taking it upon themselves to be self styled spokespeople for how the BNP should be run?

I can't remember voting for them in a leadership election.
Very nice of them to take it upon themselves to take offence on behalf of the entire BNP membership.
They are too big for their boots. Like many who always keep appearing no matter what circles you move in.

If they have something to say or think they could do things better then they should go about it in the proper manner - put up for the leadership. What do they hope to achieve through being sneaky?

If they had stood and been elected to leader then I would have accepted that and given them 100% support.

The "Sneaky 2" have no right to set up traitorous blogs attacking the BNP.
If they do then they deserve to be shown the door.
No two people are bigger than the party.
I think that they are possibly Searchlight assets.

10 December 2007 00:06

Get your facts right, they were not atacking the B.N.P. After being ignored for two years, along with plenty of other members and activists, it was the last resort to make Nick Giffin sit up and listen. But instead of that he chose to move hamfisted and do an incredible amount of dammage to the party. Nuf said

10 December 2007 00:25


Anonymous said...
Get your facts right, they were not atacking the B.N.P. After being ignored for two years, along with plenty of other members and activists, it was the last resort to make Nick Giffin sit up and listen. But instead of that he chose to move hamfisted and do an incredible amount of dammage to the party. Nuf said

10 December 2007 00:25

MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THINGS BY THE BOOK AND PUT IN A LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE, DO YOU THINK?
I THINK THAT THE METHODS THAT THEY CHOSE LEFT A LOT TO BE DESIRED.

10 December 2007 00:32


MikeinEngland said...
Bullshit baffles brains and I personally saw JT front out the Reds in Manchester in 1978, Bethnal Green in 1986, York Hall 1992, and in many other situations so YOU obviously didn't know him that well. Under him we did have a united party and it took years to get to that situation warts and all. As he rightly, it now seems, stated, the "reforms" made by Griffin are just so much window-dressing as increasing concern about immigration, lack of racial-cultural identity and many other aspects of British decline would have ensured party growth and you conveniently ignore the FACT that under JT major breakthroughs, Millwall 1993, Dagenham by-election etc, set the BNP on a certain definable course subsequently usurped and built upon by Griffin. Griffin was damaged goods from the mid 1980s onwards as we knew from the plotting and scheming surrounding the NF split that I also witnessed with horror.

True, modernisation in terms of IMAGE and PROPAGANDA were necessary and some distance had to be put between the NS hardcore "Nutzis" in order to gain a greater platform BUT not at the price of stabbing activists in the back left, right and centre in the manner which we have just witnessed under the aegis of efforts by current international agents like Kemp and co in league with other increasingly open forces on the streets and within the BNP.

This smells of "state black op" not just a couple of SENIOR activists allegedly going native.

10 December 2007 00:34


Anonymous said...
Sadie and Kenny were not trying to contest the leadership of the party or they would have thrown their hats in the ring several weeks ago. Sadie is pregnant and has other things on her mind. Nick would have had their absolute loyalty if he had got shot of Collett, no doubt about it.

10 December 2007 00:39


Heelands said...
The video links on this site about Mr Collet give a great insight into his fortitude and strength of character.

This man could never be my leader.

Until the recent incidents I had great respect for Mr Griffin, but to dismiss Sadie Graham is a terrible and terminal mistake.

I and many of my friends are with her - we would follow her if she starts a new party, or to whichever party she defects to!

10 December 2007 01:08


mikeinengland said...
A FURTHER PIECE OF TACTICAL ADVICE...If Sadie and co are serious they should/could rebrand themselves as "East Midlands BNP" and register each region as a bona fide democratic electoral organisation.

I think the time has come for a new party with the Sadie team as facilitators.

10 December 2007 01:16


Anonymous said...
There is NO time left to start ANY new party. Britain is quite literally in the 'last chance saloon' as far as national survival is concerned and those people who advocate separatism should leave the party. Indeed, if the party stressed this we could lead this debate in the country. It is a political opportunity for the BNP and not one to run away from.


Now, I don't know the rights and wrongs of the present dispute but I hope it is settled quickly and sensibly as the party has important elections to fight next year.


I don't know Mr Collet but I would have sacked him after that damaging documentary in 2002.

10 December 2007 04:29


Anonymous said...
"There is NO time left to start ANY new party."

You might be right. But there again, the BNP isn't going to go anywhere - just the same familiar pattern of success followed by failure. But a new party, set up with maximum exposure, and drawing from the broadest moderate (non-Nazi) yet firm and principled base as possible, without the baggage of the past, and with a new name, could probably tap into the non-voting public far faster than the BNP, and overtake where they would have been within three years. Of course we can never be sure, and the safest thing would be for such a party to not challenge wards where the BNP is standing. We have to win this country, and a BNP with Collett and Griffin is better than Labour and Conservative. But I wonder if a BNP with them is at all probable. I think it best we deal with this issue now, and do we what have to do before any more time is lost. Of course if no-one renewed their membership dues, the party would go bankrupt. But if everyone renewed them, a new leader could be elected. I am in favour of giving the latter a try first. But time is running out.

10 December 2007 04:40


Anonymous said...
Looks like the BNP has gotten a little too powerful for the elites taste? This blog has black operation written all over it. They're trying to split your party Nick. My question is: How did you people go from running the whole world to this?

10 December 2007 04:52


Anonymous said...
"This blog has black operation written all over it."

oh ok, i get it, a trouble-maker does as much damage as he wants to within the party, and the ones who get fed up and set up a blog are 'state'. yeah, uh, ok then. they didn't create this situation, and they didn't even create the information on their blog, which is public domain. I suggest you watch some of it before calling others 'state'. This blog didn't just come out of nowhere and split the party - the fissures were already in place.

10 December 2007 04:59


david said...
It is clear that despite his brilliant qualities Griffin has serious defects and is destroying the party. It is imperative he is replaced before it is too late.
He was poised to be a great man, the one who saved the country, but now a laughing stock, hated throughout history. All for a few petty considerations.

10 December 2007 07:16


Anonymous said...
that's funny, my comments didn't make it through on Simon Darby's website either. It's laughable that he only has seven favourable posts he can use! How many has he screened out? This must tell him something.

10 December 2007 07:35


Anonymous said...
"david said...
It is clear that despite his brilliant qualities Griffin has serious defects"

Griffin has zero qualities, he doesn't know who or what he is from one day to the next, he is a liability.

Darby's blog calling for loyalty to Griffin is laughable, when did Griffin ever show anyone loyalty? What goes around comes around but sadly Griffin has already had and spent your money and he lives a lifestyle you'll never attain.

10 December 2007 08:04


Anonymous said...
"Anonymous said...
that's funny, my comments didn't make it through on Simon Darby's website either. It's laughable that he only has seven favourable posts he can use! How many has he screened out? This must tell him something.

10 December 2007 07:35"

Never trust Darby, ask him why he allows a Welsh Liberal Democrat to stand in West Mids elections from his own business address. Darby is, STATE

10 December 2007 08:07


Anonymous said...
Darby plays tin soldiers in his blog, pretending it's all about Collett looking out the window at Blackpool. They can't even be honest can they?

10 December 2007 08:08


Aberdeen Patriot said...
Anonymous said...
Get your facts right, they were not atacking the B.N.P. After being ignored for two years, along with plenty of other members and activists, it was the last resort to make Nick Giffin sit up and listen. But instead of that he chose to move hamfisted and do an incredible amount of dammage to the party. Nuf said

10 December 2007 00:25

MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THINGS BY THE BOOK AND PUT IN A LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE, DO YOU THINK?
I THINK THAT THE METHODS THAT THEY CHOSE LEFT A LOT TO BE DESIRED.

Oi Cunt I will not hide behind being anon, they did do things by the book, they still backed Griffin, they just wanted Nick to do the proper thing and get rid of the three Numpties.

You see Kenny and Sadie want the BNP to do well, the still think Nick should be chairman, but he should let the good workers get on with the day to day running of the party.
Hannam Collet and Walker dont care about the BNP they care about themselves. So stop posting COllet Hannam or Walker as a bottling anon have the guts to stand up

10 December 2007 08:11

st george said...

Thank you Libertas. I think all B.N.P. bloggers should visit that thread, good support for Sadie & co

'Party of Principal'

Click that thread now, it makes good reading.

EnoughIsEnough said...

Libertas said...

I dug them out from my offline files and posted what I had - they are under the Party of Principle thread. I would put there up here, but that's for the owners to decide.

Thank you Libertas, If you find the other let me know and I'll repost the initial post. Then you can add all the comments in the right posts afterwards.

Anonymous said...

Nice one Libertas, nice to see someone organised.

Stig&Nad said...

Recent events of sacking two of the most prolific and hardworking BNP officials Sadie Graham and Kenny Smith has brought about outrage and upheaval within many of us.

We have known Sadie for many years and know that she is not only one of the most conscientious, hardworking and efficient activists – putting in all hours to achieve a common goal, but also an exceptionally honest and moral person, this party has ever sought and wished for. She stood year after year hard ground for all our true beliefs – for nationalism, freedom of speech and democracy.

We believe, hand on heart, that none of the allegations made against her, Kenny or the other activists involved bear any truth or weight!

The question then arises how could anyone of sane mind have doubted her? How could any leader, secure in his position, be led to such incompetent and ill-thought out decision favouring the wicked for the righteous?

The answer is probably simpler than it seems. Money, greed and surge for power inevitably leads to growing paranoia of leadership loss, which has blinded those in high ranks (and this is not the first case in history!). Corruption, lies and betrayal of their own beliefs are symptoms of this deep seated problem. It becomes a vicious circle, too hard to escape from as one is blackmailed by its own egocentric and self-loathing affiliates. Eventually, the inability to get rid of the wicked and fear of loosing the ground becomes bigger than the greater good for the party’s main goals and members’ voices!!!

Sadie, Kenny, Nicola, Matt, you have done a great job and we all stand firmly behind you, offering you our full support!